Firing Line with William F. Buckley Jr. “Human Rights in Vietnam”

Firing Line Videos, Hoover Institution, taped on September 6, 1979, uploaded to YouTube on November 11, 2011.

Guests: Joan Baez and Ginetta Sagan


Miss Baez had just taken out a full-page ad calling on Hanoi to stop its imperialism and its torture of political prisoners; 88 of her old antiwar comrades had co-signed the ad, but another dozen–including Jane Fonda, William Kunstler, and Philip Berrigan–had denounced her. A high point of the show: Mrs. Sagan’s account of how, as a young woman in Italy during World War II, she reconciled her pacifism with her desire to take part in the Resistance: “I chose to fight but in a different way than using a gun. … I chose to join … a larger group of people who … smuggle[d] people to Switzerland. If you are caught– Oh, I did something else. I poured sand in engines, so that when the Gestapo was going to get people, the cars wouldn’t run. Or, on trains. Those were very dangerous activities for the person who undertook these endeavors, but it was my life which was at stake, it was not the other person’s life.”